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Feb. 17 bracket

Posted on: February 17, 2012 10:16 am
Edited on: February 17, 2012 10:53 am
Today's bracket is posted.  There are virtually no changes at the top, thanks to Duke's comeback over North Carolina State last night.
There is some shuffling at the bottom though.  The First Four provides a post-season version of the Big Ten-ACC Challenge.  Miami and Northwestern are bracketed for one game, and the Wolfpack faces Minnesota in the other.

There are still nine Big Ten teams in the bracket, but obviously, two are in serious trouble.

A second Pac 12 team (Arizona) is in for now and Washington is among the first four out.

Iowa State is out, not because they lost, but because the Cyclones haven't beaten anyone of any significance away from home.  That is an important thing for the committee.  It's also the problem for fellow conference mate Texas.

I will write in more detail about the bottom and off-the-bracket teams in Bubble Watch in a little bit.

However, here's a few helpful hints for those of you commenting on your teams.

Conference record is just a number.  Teams are evaluated on their entire seasons, not just the conference portion, which is only about 2/3 of a team's full schedule (and less than that with three weeks to go).  If all you have is conference record and/or position in the conference standings, you have nothing.

Head to head results are not decisive.  Teams are judged on their entire seasons, not one or two games.  Alabama fans know that well, after beating Georgia twice in the final week of the season last year, only to see the Bulldogs be selected ahead of them.

How teams finish the season has been deemphasized by the committee.  It has no bearing on how you do in the tournament.  VCU lost four of its last five last year.

Speaking of the Colonial league, people are asking if there is an at-large team in the trio atop the league (Drexel, VCU, George Mason).  They ask because the league usually has at-large quaity teams at the top of the league and has performed well in the tournament.  However, this is a down year.  Those three are rated betewen 80-100 in the RPI, or a good 50-60 spots below where the league's best team usually rates.    Those three teams have combined for three non-conference wins against top 100 teams.   There just isn't enough there to compete for at-large bids, so the Colonial will be a one-bid league.

I will be headed to the Murray State-St. Mary's game on Saturday, followed by the Michigan State-Purdue game on Sunday.  The SMC-Murray game is part of the bracket buster, which rarely, if ever, busts a bracket, but Murray can really help itself with a win over the Gaels in the event the Racers get upset in the OVC tournament and need an at-large big.

Another team that can boost its potential at-large hopes with a win is Long Beach, which travels to Creighton.  It would be their best win of the year.


Since: Aug 28, 2006
Posted on: February 21, 2012 11:31 am

Feb. 17 bracket

What about WAGNER, they will be at worst 27-5, even if they don't win their conference.  is that the only way they get in?

Since: Dec 15, 2008
Posted on: February 21, 2012 11:18 am

Feb. 17 bracket

More evidence against your silliness, this week BYU received 29 votes in the AP poll. They are on the verge of the top 25 and you think they are a bubble team? it's ludicrus. If they beat Gonzaga this week and then finish out with a 9th straight road win they will be in the top 25. Most improved team in the West!

Since: Nov 3, 2007
Posted on: February 20, 2012 5:21 pm

boring March 15th, 2012

March 13, 1984, LIU-Brooklyn and Houston Baptist were participants in the NCAA Men's basketball tournament.

This year's field is shaping up to have simlar viewer interest as those two teams.

Participation of teams from major conferences means more eyeballs, more interest and a bigger impact on American current events.

Less teams are needed from America East, Atlantic 10, Atlantic Sun, Big Sky, Big South, Big West, Colonial, Conference USA, Horizon League, Ivy League, MAAC, MAC, MEAC, Missouri Valley, Mountain West, Northeast, Ohio Valley, Patriot League, SWAC, Southern, Southland, Summit League, Sun Belt, WAC and West Coast conferences.

Since: Dec 15, 2008
Posted on: February 20, 2012 3:19 pm

Feb. 17 bracket

Palm, when are you going to realize that BYU is not a bubble team at this point. They aren't even close. 7 straight road victories, been in the top 50 RPI all season. The biggest thing bringing them down is their first game of the season where they lost at the spectrum, which has the best home record in the nation since 2005. The only bad home loss is to layola marymount, a which anyone who pays attention to college basketball knows are an under-reated team this year because their talent does not reflect their mid-season crisis. Are BYU a high seaded team this year? no, but a bubble team? Not even a chance.

Since: Nov 21, 2006
Posted on: February 20, 2012 1:40 am

Feb. 17 bracket

Bracket Busters doesn't bust brackets? How about George Mason in 2006, Butler in 2010, and VCU in 2011.  I know they ruined my bracket.

Since: May 17, 2010
Posted on: February 19, 2012 3:12 pm


I am sorry, I just keep seeing things here that are insane.  Minnesota?  They lost to Iowa twice!!!!  Iowa is AWFUL!!!   They have won 1/3 of their conerence games!!!  Why isn't Iowa in the conversation then?  It's just such poor analysis. 

Since: May 17, 2010
Posted on: February 19, 2012 3:08 pm

Do you even watch the games?

Illinois in?  HHAHAHAH.  THey might finish last in the Big 10 the way they are going.  So you are taking a 5-9 Big 10 team over a 10 win Big 12 team.  Are you even watching these games?  Do you even look at the standings or results of the games?  You need to at least look at this stuff after your Big 10 graduate intern makes it up.  It's just so bad.  Take some pride in your work for crying out loud.

Since: May 17, 2010
Posted on: February 19, 2012 3:00 pm

Feb. 17 bracket

Iowa State is out?  Get off the crack piple.  They beat K State head to head and have 2 more conference wins and a far beter RPI.  You are taking yourself a little seriously Jerry.  You really think a team that finishes 3rd in the Big 12 is going to lose out ot a team with 2 less conference wins? That is crazy.  Top 40 RPI, probably top 30 schedule after they play K State, Baylor and Missouri again.  Pull you head out.  You discredit yourself with some of this stuff.  Such a joke.

Since: Feb 18, 2012
Posted on: February 18, 2012 10:03 pm

What a Joke!

He Luv's the Weak Ten.  Northwestern and Minnesota will lose in the first round but it won't even be in the NCAA's. 

Cyclones are probably a 11 seed if it ended today, they win a couple more they could move up to 9 or so.

Since: Nov 18, 2007
Posted on: February 18, 2012 9:12 pm

Feb. 17 bracket

Iowa State is out, not because they lost, but because the Cyclones haven't beaten anyone of any significance away from home.

And 15-10 Northwestern's BIG road win is who? Why the love affair with the mediocre Big 10? 9 teams? This would be maddening if it weren't so absurd. 

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