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Bubble buster Thursday

Posted on: March 9, 2012 3:16 am
Edited on: March 9, 2012 10:26 am
 
A lot of bubble teams did themselves no favors today, and that has caused another shakeup at the bottom of the bracket.

Washington, Northwestern, Oregon and Mississippi State were among those that not only lost, but lost badly.  The Wildcats lost to Minnesota, but the other three all lost to triple-digit RPI teams.  Despite Northwestern's loss, I still have them in the bracket. 

South Florida also lost, in overtime, to Notre Dame.  The Bulls are also still in the bracket -- for now.

Washington is not though.  The Huskies are the regular season champion of the moribund Pac-12, but their lack of quality wins, both inside and outside the league, will make it hard for the committee to select them.  If they miss, they will be the first major-conference champion ever to do so in the 64+ team era.  They would also be the first outright champion of a top ten league to miss since Miami-Ohio did so in 2005.

Cincinnati is climbing up the bracket quickly with a win over Georgetown in the Big East tournament.  I have them in an 8-9 game today.

Ole Miss won its game, setting up an elimination clash with Tennessee in the SEC.

Iowa put the final nail in Illinois' coffin at the Big Ten tournament, not that the Illini held out realistic at-large hopes anyway.

Texas and Colorado St filled holes in their tournament resumes by winning away from home.  The Rams beat TCU for their best away win of the year, and Texas beat Iowa State to help get a good grip on their spot in the field.

Games to watch tomorrow for bubble teams include Xavier-Dayton, Tennessee-Ole Miss, and the Pac 12 semis.





Comments

Since: Aug 1, 2007
Posted on: March 9, 2012 3:43 pm
 

Bubble buster Thursday

Woah! We actually have someone trying to defend the PAC12? I just went through the records of every single member, as an entire LEAGUE, who did they beat (other than other PAC12 members) and we have ONE "decent" win, Oregon State beat Texas. Wins vs any and all BCS conferences are few, we had wins over Wake Forest, St Johns, Georgia, Nebraska and South Carolina. That's FIVE wins as an entire conference and NONE of them have winning records. Texas is the only team from a power conference with a winning record, every other game was a loss. To make matters worse, no wins vs the several games against UNLV and similar "well known" non BCS schools either. Face it, the PAC12 beat absolutely nobody, any criticism that tthey stink on ice (this year) is valid and well founded!



Since: Oct 30, 2008
Posted on: March 9, 2012 12:34 pm
 

Bubble buster Thursday

 In reality, I think Colorado is probably the 8th best team in the 8th best conference.


I disagree.  Colorado lead the PAC 12 for the first couple months.  CU is probably the 4th best team in teh PAC 12.  As far as speculating where they would be in the Big 12, people did that last year too.  And CU beat KState 3 times.  My guess is that CU would be somewhere in the middle of the Big 12.  They would have beaten some teams like KState, Iowa State, Texas probably at home.  It's very tough to win at CU.



Since: Sep 16, 2007
Posted on: March 9, 2012 12:11 pm
 

Bubble buster Thursday

I am a big Xavier fan.

 This season has been the strangest one I have ever seen since I've been following the Musketeers. That having been said......if they lose to Dayton and don't make the NCAA field, I'm fine with it. They just won't deserve to be there.
After an 8-0 start against some good competition, this team just hasn't shown the desire that past X teams have displayed in order to become champions.

I hope like crazy that things come back together for them, but if not, so be it.



Since: Jan 19, 2008
Posted on: March 9, 2012 12:05 pm
 

Bubble buster Thursday

When one team wins the same conference for something like 100 years in a row, it's not a good conference...
The poster is apparently referring to Kansas, which has wone the conference for the past several years. However, over the past 15 years, 5 different teams have won or shared the regular season championship in the Big XII.

And if you think Colorado would be 5-13 in the Big 12 this year, you're nuts!
Well, KenPom.com has the Buffs rated the 95th best team in the land, right behind Oklahoma State, which finished 7-11 in conference, and ahead of Oklahoma, which finished 5-13. Sagarin has Colorado rated 91st, with Oklahoma State 92nd and Oklahoma 96th. So I think you are right. Colorado probably would have finished right around 6-10 or 7-11 in the Big 12. They would not be in the discussion for an at-large bid, of course. Neither Oklahoma school is. In reality, I think Colorado is probably the 8th best team in the 8th best conference.

Not a Pac12 hater at all. Love John Wooden, the Bruin teams of Alcindor and Walton. But this era isn't that era. Sorry.







Since: Jan 19, 2008
Posted on: March 9, 2012 12:04 pm
 

Bubble buster Thursday

When one team wins the same conference for something like 100 years in a row, it's not a good conference...
The poster is apparently referring to Kansas, which has wone the conference for the past several years. However, over the past 15 years, 5 different teams have won or shared the regular season championship in the Big XII.

And if you think Colorado would be 5-13 in the Big 12 this year, you're nuts!
Well, KenPom.com has the Buffs rated the 95th best team in the land, right behind Oklahoma State, which finished 7-11 in conference, and ahead of Oklahoma, which finished 5-13. Sagarin has Colorado rated 91st, with Oklahoma State 92nd and Oklahoma 96th. So I think you are right. Colorado probably would have finished right around 6-10 or 7-11 in the Big 12. They would not be in the discussion for an at-large bid, of course. Neither Oklahoma school is. In reality, I think Colorado is probably the 8th best team in the 8th best conference.

Not a Pac12 hater at all. Love John Wooden, the Bruin teams of Alcindor and Walton. But this era isn't that era. Sorry.





Since: Jul 9, 2007
Posted on: March 9, 2012 11:32 am
 

Northwestern Does NOT deserve an at large bid

How could you possibly reward mediocre seasons and bad loss endings like Northwestern, and keep a team that won 25 of its last 27, won the conference regular season, and lost a close game in the conference championship like Drexel.  The tournament should be rewarding a team that played well during the season, not teams that are 1-10 vs the RPI top 50.  I understand people wanting to see Northwestern in the tournament for the first time ever, but they should have to earn it and play their way in.  They failed to do that



Since: Mar 9, 2012
Posted on: March 9, 2012 11:23 am
 

Bubble buster Thursday

I am so sick and tired of hearing about how bad the Pac-12 is.  I watch a lot of basketball and, although the conference is not nearly as strong as it traditionally has been, it is by no means miserable. It has six teams with 20 wins and two more with 19. One through eight it is balanced and tough. I really don't care who Washington or UCLA lost to in November. I think the conference suffers this year from the fact that there isn't a dominant team. It is a tough conference to navigate. And if you think Colorado would be 5-13 in the Big 12 this year, you're nuts! When one team wins the same conference for something like 100 years in a row, it's not a good conference...



Since: Mar 9, 2012
Posted on: March 9, 2012 10:52 am
 

Bubble buster Thursday

im curious why not minnesota they are 19-13.they are at leat on the bubble,at least in next four out or first four out,if they win today they will make it,and one other why isnt georgetown a 4 seed now,they lost to cinncinati and marquette to louisville,i mean come on georgetown is not that good,the big ten is the best this year they have 5 powerhouses,all of which are pretty much even,ohio st beat mich st,indiana beat ohio st ,mich st,michigan,and kentucky.only bad loss for indiana was nebraska.



Since: Aug 1, 2007
Posted on: March 9, 2012 10:30 am
 

Bubble buster Thursday

Hating the Pac12 is popular this year and I tend to agree they stink on ice this year. Northwestern has no chance, let it go Jerremy! Big East, no way they place 10 teams (but I hope they do) I'm thinking Seton Hall is out, they have a few "good" BigEast wins but very few and absolutely nothing outside the BE, I just don't see tem making it.



Since: Jan 25, 2012
Posted on: March 9, 2012 10:29 am
 

Bubble buster Thursday

I see Mr. Palm still has Northwestern in. I'm surprised he doesn't have Minnesota in.

Fortunately, Palm isn't on the selection committee. The Wildcats are out with the 1st Round loss to Minnesota. Many other sites have Drexel in the last four which bumps Northwestern off the bubble.

10 teams from the Big East still even though West Virginia lost an opening game in the 2nd round of the tourney, Seton Hall loses in the 2nd round, and USF goes 1-1. I think there are 10 teams only in Palm's world.

Oregon and Washington both losing in the Pac-12 quaterfinals. This is a miserable league that doesn't deserve any teams advancing to the NCAA. If you have any doubt look at Colorado. If you put Colorado in place of Texas Tech in the Big 12, they end up 5-13 in conference and are eliminated at least by the quarterfinals of the tourney if not sooner.

Surprised that Texas beat Iowa State, but that seals the deal for 6 teams from the Big 12. A very underrated conference that will do well in the Big Dance. They will have a higher winning percentage than either the Big East or the Big Ten.


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